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« on: June 04, 2018, 11:06:52 PM »

New OS, some macs not supported but macpros from 2010 onwards will be OK, provided they have a metal capable GPU. I just wonder how well NVIDIA GPUs will fare in it.
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2018, 05:32:20 AM »

They will be fine.

I have some old favorite cards I do for the novelty of it, GTX470 and GTX580 from Palit had DP ports, most "board partners" didn't include these until Kepler.

So even though they are a bunch of work, I still churn out a few. And last week when I did I noticed that High Sierra declared them "Metal Capable" though not with the v2 or v3 designation.

In any case, Kepler will be. And that means not just the GTX680. For people frightened of cards needing power cables, GT640 is same family.

So a simple, flashed GT640 with DP port becomes a perfect replacement for GT120. Problem solved for every 4,1/5,1 with an owner who wants to stay current but doesn't need a powerhouse GPU. And 640DP can display 4K (no 4K boot screen unless we do some more magic on it)

There is even a GT630 with Dual DP ports for 5K or maybe larger.

Small AMD cards are much more difficult flash, you're lucky to get 1/4 ports to show a boot screen.

Good time for Nvidia, and the 4,1/5,1.

UPDATE: That didn't take long. GTX580 (Fermi as they come) running in Mojave.


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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2018, 10:12:01 AM »

So, a flashed GT640 can work with a 1080Ti in Windows 10 without any driver issue, isn't it?

(But on the macOS side may suffer from the "low card driver issue")
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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 01:30:52 PM »

It most certainly could.

GT120 is G96, 640 is GK107.

Like having a great, great, great Grandpa who fought in US Civil War.

640 is Kepler, just like 680 & Quadro K5000. It will be supported just as long.

As far as "low card" I have a feeling that will be fixed soon. it doesn't stop an output from working, it just isn't fully accelerated.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2018, 02:25:14 PM »

maybe a little off topic, but any positive news about AFPS or RAID boot support in Mojave?
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2018, 02:52:43 PM »

Thanks for your insight, really appreciated

It most certainly could.

GT120 is G96, 640 is GK107.

Like having a great, great, great Grandpa who fought in US Civil War.

640 is Kepler, just like 680 & Quadro K5000. It will be supported just as long.

As far as "low card" I have a feeling that will be fixed soon. it doesn't stop an output from working, it just isn't fully accelerated.

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2018, 07:53:39 PM »

Anyway, Rominator, may I know if all flashed GT630 on macvidcards.com are single slot card? The pictures of the Dual DP/DVI version looks like a real single slot card. But since the end product can be different than the picture. So, I would like to confirm this before I buy it or recommend this card to anyone to replace the GT120.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 12:52:02 AM »

Even better - some guys reported that Mojave changes Mac Pro 2010 to 2012!
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 03:42:04 AM »

H98, I’m going to clarify on my site which cards are single vs some are 1 1/2 wide and some are 2 full slots wide. I got a bunch of varieties in and need to differentiate.

BTW, we also found an awesome half height one for X-Serve.

The other option for those being Nvidia MXM cards, did I mention I finally got boot screen working on thise? Perhaps I forgot...
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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 09:09:07 AM »

Just got a reply from Nvidia yesterday.

Confirmed that Fermi can be used with Pascal in Windows 10 up to driver version 391.35.

So, a single slot flashed Fermi card can easily be the best GT120 replacement in a dual boot 10.14 and Windows 10 setup.


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« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 02:57:26 PM »

Just got a reply from Nvidia yesterday.

Confirmed that Fermi can be used with Pascal in Windows 10 up to driver version 391.35.

So, a single slot flashed Fermi card can easily be the best GT120 replacement in a dual boot 10.14 and Windows 10 setup.
except gt640 is kepler, not fermi.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 08:02:29 PM »

Just got a reply from Nvidia yesterday.

Confirmed that Fermi can be used with Pascal in Windows 10 up to driver version 391.35.

So, a single slot flashed Fermi card can easily be the best GT120 replacement in a dual boot 10.14 and Windows 10 setup.
except gt640 is kepler, not fermi.

Hahaha, poor Nvidia support!
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« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 08:45:43 PM »

I know where this confusion comes from, it's Nvidia's own fault.

They played a little AMD style "rebadging" early in GT6xx life.

I got a GT630 when they were released from EVGA and was disappointed to find it was Fermi.

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b1227/evga-gt-630

Look close at shot of chip, "GF-108" is Fermi.

I have been investigating MXM cards and got a GT640M recently, was very disappointed to find it was another case of "badge engineering"

Really a GT540 with new name:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/349/geforce-gt-640m-le

Fermi had 2 output ports only, also ran hotter and used more power.

So, not a good choice for Macs. Mojave says they have Metal support but if I was Apple I'd kill it.

iMac 2011 has only one path into Mojave, a MXM Metal card. Working on it...
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 01:58:27 AM »

10.14 introduces GPU Family 2 V1. It also introduces Family 1 V4

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metal/mtlfeatureset
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/metal/mtlfeatureset/macos_gpufamily2_v1

What gpus fall under Family 2 is unknown yet. I hope nivida can get 9xx and 10x0 in there though through web driver. No doubt some Metal features will be Family 2 exclusive

https://developer.apple.com/metal/Metal-Feature-Set-Tables.pdf is not yet updated sadly, still waiting for it to show Graphics2 V1 and Graphics1 V4 feature sets.

Figuring out features that will now require Family 2+ and what cards fall under Family 2 will be important selling points for certain GPUs going forward.

Family 1 V4 will be all same Metal GPUs that have been supported by Metal since 10.11 with likely some new exclusive to Family 2+ features flipped off. You'll probably still be able to run 10.14 with any ole Metal GPU, but you'll start running into things ya can't do. Reminds me of days of QE enabled GPUs vs not, etc Smiley.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 08:43:50 AM »

Any rumors about the NVIDIA WEBDriver?
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