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Author Topic: Apple bones us yet again - hasn't played TB3 by the rules  (Read 30618 times)
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« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2016, 09:10:28 PM »

Okay here are my thoughts and numbers:

1. I can only get 4k on a Dell 5k monitor, which is kind of lame.
2. Windows is fast, but Mac sure is laggy it feels like in comparison.
3. Running the Heaven benchmark on 4k w/vsync I get 20-30 fpbs on Ultra.
4. Dropping that down to 2560x1600 I see 30fps-60fps.
5. I can get any Ubisoft games to launch, but I did get an old copy of Dishonored 1 to play and it was pretty awesome looking with no noticeable lag on high settings.
6. I suspect the lag on Mac is probably related to the drivers, when I drop the resolution down to 2560x1440 it gets a lot faster, although thats basically what the old Apple display ran and it's pretty lame IMHO.

Let me know if this helps, thanks for all your help, oh I am running an EVGA GTX 980 TI.
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« Reply #121 on: December 13, 2016, 10:46:36 PM »

Hey

Can you test Dota 2 with 980 TI. I think its the drivers, but I like staying in the Mac environment because I don't like rebooting and like doing some iMessage while gaming lol.

Can you check in 1440p, cuz thats the monitor I have. I am thinking of upgrading from 970 to 980TI
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« Reply #122 on: December 13, 2016, 11:11:11 PM »

Looks like 10.12.2 disables the thunderbolt kext patch. Can't really find a work around for it currently
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« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2016, 04:07:20 AM »

I imagine kid2010 or Netkas (or someone else friendly with Auntie Ida) will have a new patch shortly.

Pretty crappy of Apple to move the target

EDIT: already posted

https://github.com/KhaosT/tb3-enabler
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« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2016, 04:08:28 AM »

Apple didn't make any changes there, the patch itself just need to update to support 10.12.2. Already done Smiley
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« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2016, 04:52:13 AM »

Kid2010 were you able to get your book thunderbolt dock to work and work smoothly with your MacBook Pro with the kext edit? Thinking about picking one up and testing that
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« Reply #126 on: December 14, 2016, 04:54:58 AM »

HP one? The USB and Ethernet works fine, the DisplayPort seems to have some issue with MST 4K display. I don't have a SST display so not sure if the situation is different.
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« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2016, 05:27:27 AM »

Was going to try it on that. I'm also getting the star tech tb3 dock but it seems to only output 15w of power to the connecting computer. Wondering if you can put an apple power supply in one of the USB c ports to draw more power
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« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2016, 10:23:53 AM »

Apple MST 4K drivers are a joke. If the DP port needs them, it will never work.

Ask the guy with 2 different 4K MST displays.

The "fix" for MST was coincidentally same kext where the BIG eGPU breakthrough happened. If you use the fix, eGPU doesn't work. Good old Catch 22.
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« Reply #129 on: December 15, 2016, 09:36:37 PM »

I can only get 4k on a Dell 5k monitor, which is kind of lame.

I am running an EVGA GTX 980 TI.

I am also running a GTX 980ti. I have a 4K display which requires MST to work at 60hz, similar to how your 5K requires MST to work at 5K resolution. The Nvidia Web Drivers require a kernel argument to support MST: `nv_spanmodepolicy=1`. Add this to your kernel arguments by typing `sudo nvram boot-args="nvda_drv=1 nv_spanmodepolicy=1"`

If you are using automate-eGPU.sh, it will mess with your kernel args in nvram every time you restart. You can modify automate-eGPU.sh to fix this. Search for `boot_args` and add `nv_spanmodepolicy=1` everywhere you see `nvda_drv=1`.

Hope this helps. It worked for me.
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« Reply #130 on: December 25, 2016, 10:58:38 PM »

What about 13" non touchbar vs touchbar?? They are always mentioning it if it is touchbar or not...  Grin

+1 on that question. Thinking of buying a 13", and would love to get an eGPU working. Most people seem to run it on a non-touchbar version, is there something that prohibits the 13" touchbar from working with the razer core?

Also, people mention bad performance in OS X - is this resolved, or can I expect bugs / bad performance under OS X? I'm currently not interested in running windows, this would be purely for OS X speedup.
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« Reply #131 on: December 28, 2016, 07:15:56 PM »

Nvidia drivers are just bad in MacOS so you get worst performance in MacOS for video games.

I run on a 13 inch Touchbar version with Razer Core+ 970. It runs ok , but gaming I primarily choose to go with Bootcamp. Get better performance in Windows definitely. unfortunately the main game I play (data 2, just stutters a lot in MacOS and I can't seem to fix it)
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« Reply #132 on: December 29, 2016, 03:05:49 AM »

Nvidia drivers are just bad in MacOS so you get worst performance in MacOS for video games.

I run on a 13 inch Touchbar version with Razer Core+ 970. It runs ok , but gaming I primarily choose to go with Bootcamp. Get better performance in Windows definitely. unfortunately the main game I play (data 2, just stutters a lot in MacOS and I can't seem to fix it)

As long as the eGPU part is working as it should, the gpu drivers themselves are secondary. I'm currently running a 290X in a hackintosh that I can donate for a 13" MBP. It's not great, but the drivers for 290x are quite solid and it's a huge improvement over intel integrated gpu. One can always upgrade once new drivers are out. Thanks!
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« Reply #133 on: January 11, 2017, 01:24:49 PM »

I have problem with Thunder3 even with TB3-enabler my enclosure is recognized by macOS sometimes, like 1/7 quite strange.
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« Reply #134 on: January 11, 2017, 03:34:26 PM »

Is this with 480?

Can you run System Profiler and show which extensions loaded with "unknown" as provider?
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